Michael W. Dean has coined a new phrase “THE AGGRESSION PRINCIPLE” for an old concept. Neema and Michael try to figure out who first said the old concept. “THE AGGRESSION PRINCIPLE” drives all government. It is the opposite of the Non-Aggression Principle. It is this almost verbatim escalation whenever it’s told:

“All laws and taxes are enforced by the threat of a gun: If you refuse to pay a tax, men will come to your house. If you send them away, they’ll return with men with guns. If you tell those men to go away, they’ll kick in your door, put a gun to your head, and take you away to a cage or kill you.”

The Feens also take a trip down OG libertarian memory lane and talk about Robert Lefavre, Leonard Read, “I, Pencil” (video here), Gary North, Harry Browne, and more.

The Feens explain their Grand Unified Theory of Libertarianism, the triad of
–NAP 2.0

Then the Feens finish their deep liberty lesson and go full-on Beavis and Butthead talking about people who try to “cure” people of masturbation.

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36 thoughts on “Understanding THE AGGRESSION PRINCIPLE”

  1. I have a book by Bob LeFevre called “Lift her up, tenderly” a fictional story about raising a young girl and teaching her how the world works (an excellent book on interacting with children, by the way). It’s quite rare. It has no actual copyright but in the introduction he dates it 1976. In the last chapter, where he discusses politics with this girl, the Aggression Principle is conspicuous by its absence. He says about everything else you could say about politics, but not that. So at least in 1976, LeFevre was not talking about the Aggression Principle.

    In 1988 Jan Narveson comes tantalizingly close to stating the Aggression Principle in a prologue called “The Knock at the Door” (book is “The Libertarian Idea”) but not quite there.

    I’m a fan back in the old days of Edward Abbey, but I don’t think he said it. His most libertarian or even anarchist book is “Fire on the Mountain” which I recommend highly. His most famous book was “The Monkey Wrench Gang”.

    I initially guessed LeFevre but now to me it sounds a lot more like Harry Browne. I have a few of his books but they are not handy at the moment so I can’t check.

    As to sex taboos and how they came about, it seems pretty obvious to me, the amateur anthropologist. Before birth control, just imagine if there were no taboos. Girls would be pregnant at age 10 and for their entire life, and there would be no families to speak of. I think those taboos (eventually formalized in churches and the like) were just social pressures worked out over the eons in tribal society, because societies that did not have them were quickly wrecked. Keep in mind most animals have their estrus regulated to once a year and humans are not so limited, so some other factor has to step in to regulate things. Also such taboos were important in the formation of families which in turn were needed for the long developmental times of human babies. Of course taboos went overboard when churches got hold of them but the original need for them might have made perfect sense, even if they arose spontaneously.

    1. Good info Paul.

      And the taboo thing makes sense, at least as part of it. I think the rest of it is men having “crab mentality” about women having more/better orgasms.


  2. For gun safes, I would tend to go with something “hidden in plain sight”. A metal enclosure that looks like something else people don’t want to mess with. Such as an electrical access panel a.k.a. a NEMA enclosure. Most have capability to be fitted with one or more locks, can be rapidly accessed, and might or might not have live power going into them, or other things. Generally nobody in their right mind pokes around inside of one wired up to something. ๐Ÿ˜€
    {yes, I’m stating most people who work with current are nuts.}

    A few examples here. http://www.vikingmetal.com/UserFiles/Image/ge476_cropped.JPG



    The best prices are on old PLC enclosures that have had something go up in smoke or explode. You can usually get em for about $50-$250 salvage price. Get locks for about $30. Sand em down, repaint em, string some romex wire up to em, bolt em to the wall. Maybe stuff your network, satt cable, and sound distribution hub in there for yucks.

    Probably something more for a homeowner to do than an apartment dweller. But you never know, could put one of these enclosures where the guts to a hide-a-bed couch used to be. It’ll then still be every bit as uncomfortable as the original, and very accessible. ๐Ÿ˜€

          1. That is one reason why cities and other governments always like to have blueprints of every building….to look for rooms that have been hidden when they search.


    1. There are various simple locking boxes and biometric safes. I have used them intermittently for the home defense gun (the latter with less than complete reliability) but I ended up addressing the safety concerns basically 3 ways:
      1) I try as much as possible to have the gun on me at all times, even at home (helps with home invasions, heh);
      2) I selected a gun and mode of carry somewhat childproof;
      3) I followed Massad Ayoob’s advice about “Gun-Proof Your Children”

      This is one of those things where redundancy is important. The problem with #1 by itself is that humans sometimes forget and leave a gun out somewhere. The problem with #2 by itself is that some children are really clever. The problem with #3 by itself is that you are gun proofing YOUR children, but what about their friends?

      If you are reasonably careful the risk I think is no worse than that of not being armed, or of drowning in 5 gallon buckets.

      What I mean by #2 is this. I first stopped using a cocked-and-locked 1911 which is no good at all around young kids. I ended up with a double action pistol, DAO is the safest but I had and continued to use a CZ75. Then I unloaded my gun and asked my boy, when he was young, to try to manipulate it. He could pull the trigger when the hammer was back, but not double action, and he certainly could not rack the slide. So I carried empty chamber for a few years. I *really* recommend this. I very much doubt it reduces the utility of a gun very much (statistically) and increases the safety around kids tremendously. Forget what old farts writing articles in gun mags say about it. :-) You might even get an extra-strong recoil spring to make it harder to rack.

      The most important is #3 though.

  3. Lol, it’s “etymology”, not “entomology”. One is about words, the other about bugs ๐Ÿ˜€


    But what I would do, is buy a cheap standing metal gun cabinet, and mod it by mounting the opening mechanism up high. You can use some bike-brake wire for that if you mount it to one of those twist-doorlatches. I guess a push-pull rod would do too, but would have to be more custom-fabbed, but whatever you have lying around, eh?

    1. It BUGS me when people point that out.

      Lol, yeah, I know that one and still do it wrong sometimes. Will correct. Do’h!


      1. I realize not everyone wants to build their baby-safe furniture by themselves, but simple hacks, and instructables can also be performed by paid labor (got to be a friendly neighborhood agorist around somewhere) and can still be cheaper and more effective than buying the high-end models.

  4. I listened to the Jeffrey Tucker interview with Stephan Molyneux about crossing the border into Canada. It reminds me of a post I made on this site before.

    In Canada, our goons are generally less overtly goon-ish. There’s usually a bit more velvet glove, but push them, and you’ll see the iron fist come out very quickly.

    I suppose the State of Canuckistan is a bit smarter, they’re not boiling the frog quite so quickly. I’ve heard many people comment on the emerging police state in America, but not notice it over the bacon and maple syrup. (yes, I can poke fun at my country.)

    I believe we’re not as far down that path, but we are definitely on that path.

    1. “Original gangster.” It’s a rap phrase for “someone who did it before everyone else.”
      It’s a term of respect in hip-hop.


        1. The term “ol dun” may also be used to describe an elderly individual who is respected in the community who gave up his street lifestyle many years ago. “Dun” means dude or home boy. When used with the word “ol” or old in front, it refers to a homeboy whose slingin, blastin or pimpin days have gone by. It would be used in the following manner:

          “Gramps is an ol’ dun from way back.”

  5. Some additional info for your pamphlet:
    “Every government on earth is the personification of violence and force” Clarence Darrow

    “The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man “Your money or your life” And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat” Lysander Spooner

  6. Neema-

    We all struggle with this one. I have a crappy Stack On brand pistol safe in my basement. It beeps loudly when numbers are pressed giving away my position. I keep it so that little hands don’t get on my basement pistol.

    My father in law has the Fort Knox pistol box. It’s great. Silent and secure. Highly recommend.

    I lock the bedroom door so the revolver in the nightstand is secure. Also, while children are small many long guns (my 870) can be held up high in a closet with magnets. It will be hidden and unreachable but still easy to access.

    Good luck, man!

  7. I looked for safes for a long time. I’ve seen $2500 liberty safes go for $700, $2,000 Heritage safes go for $700. OF course those are typical large gun safes, but im sure bedside safes are there as well. I HIGHLY recommend he look on craigslist, you can save a buttload of federal reserve notes.

    Neema, what if you always carried your pistol on you(even at home-as i do), then when you sleep, its under your pillow. Also, when you sleep you lock your bedroom door. That way it is never accessible. That is how I deal with the EDC gun issue. It never leaves my side while i’m in the world, when i’m in the dream world it’s right below my head and the door is locked. Also keep my sweet Zebralight SC52(run your lights on eneloop rechargeables if you can, don’t buy batteries) under the pillow as well. Don’t you have an XDM 9mm as well? Love that gun, got a longer aftermarket mag release so i dont have to alter my grip to release the mag, the best upgrade IMO. You could save money on a bedside safe by always keeping it on you at home and below you when you sleep. Just my thoughts.

    1. the deals i talked about earlier were found on craigslist, and i recommend you DONT use craigslist to find a safe, instead use craigslist by using google 24 hour(or 1 hour) search like this:

      site: craigslist.org Gun safe

      then i just search through the green link below each result for the city it’s in, doing this you can find a recent one close to you. Safes go REALLY fast on craigs list nowadays.

      Then there is Zoomthelist which lets you search craiglist by state, useful as well.

      Great podcast guys.

      1. Thanks Ike. I’ll bring the pillow thing up with the wife, but she’ll probably remind me that i can be a bit absent minded.

        1. Yea, that can be an issue with firearms. I have been doing it for a year now and have never forgotten to turn the pillow over when i wakeup and grab my xdm and my light. Probably because i carry them everyday and would notice they were gone. But, if you are more absent minded then me, go for the fingerprint safe. Make sure it will save two fingerprints so your wife can use it in an emergency as well.

        2. Forget the pillow nonsense, Neema. That’s plain foolish and unnecessary. Put the pistol on the nightstand and practice getting out of bed and picking it up. Do that until it is cemented into your “muscle memory” and you won’t have to worry about being “absent minded.”

          A “gun safe” of some kind might be important if you have small children or frequent visitors who could not be trusted, of course, but Ike is right that the best place for a loaded gun is on your body. That’s where mine is… I also have a loaded shotgun in a rack by my bed. The rest of the guns are unloaded and stored properly.

          As for where to buy a safe? I most certainly wouldn’t look for one on line, let alone have anything to do with ‘google.” Talk to the folks at the local gun club, look at the classified ads in the paper, price them at local hardware or sporting goods stores. The fewer people who know you have one, the better. And if you look on line, a LOT of people you can’t trust will know…

          1. with regard to the pillow, i have this fear-perhaps irrational-that someone will break into my house and into my bedroom. Having the gun on the nightstand would mean they can see it and use it against me. If its under my head, it is concealed. I wake up VERY easily, probably lots of times a night. any bump or rustle will wake me up no matter how tired I am so i doubt someone could take it without me noticing. Maybe you could put it on the nightstand and then put something over it, but then we might as well be back to the biosafe.

            Couldn’t he use a VPN to do his searching? Good point about people knowing you have a gunsafe. I would use a VPN to search, pay in cash, do not give your real name to the guy, pak with your license plate facing aawy from his door. I’ve bought tons of stuff off craiglist and noone ever asked for my name or ID. In fact, some people never even asked my name.

          2. Ike, Mama Liberty has a doggie, she doesn’t have to worry about waking up seeing a bad guy next to the bed. :-) The pillow vs nightstand thing is personal preference. I don’t think it matters much either way. Just make sure you gun-proof your kids…

            I never worry that much about somebody finding I have a gun because I buy a gun safe. Lots of people have guns. Who buys a gun safe is not very useful information. I’ve never heard of someone getting their guns stolen because they bought a gun safe. Usually it’s the other way around; their guns were stolen because they didn’t buy one!

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