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Ben Stone the Bad Quaker,  Michael W. Dean and Lousander Feen  stuff their faces with turkey while explaining the truth about Thanksgiving.

BEN’S NOTES:

Thanksgiving Day
A government-made myth
The myth of Thanksgiving Day often starts with one of two lies.
The pilgrim lie or the Washington lie.
The Washington lie is that Washington declared the first official Thanksgiving Day.

On October 3, 1789, George Washington sent a letter to the governors of the states suggesting a day of prayer and thanks for  the course and conclusion of the late war. He said the people should beseech God to pardon our national and other  transgressions.
He didn’t mention family gatherings, eating together, watching sports, turkeys, Pilgrims, nor the harvest. In the wake of  Shay’s rebellion, and on the eve of the Whisky Tax and the subsequent Whisky Rebellion, Washington’s clearly stated purpose in  having a day of prayer and thanks was to calm and unite the people.
But be clear, there was no tradition of a set day called Thanksgiving, no matter how many lies have been told over the years.
During Lincoln’s war in 1863, John Sherman, senator from Ohio and brother to William Tecumseh Sherman, made a speech  suggesting ways to push people into being more nationally focused and less faithful to their state. He said; “Nationalize as  much as possible” to “make men love their country before their states.  All private interests, all local interests, all  banking interests, the interests of individuals, everything, should be subordinate now to the interest of the national
government.
­(Cited in Heather Cox Richardson, The Greatest Nation on the Earth, p. 87)
In the same year, 1863, Lincoln made a proclamation declaring a national Thanksgiving Day. That proclamation has been called  “a masterpiece of lies, deceptions, and false propaganda that would have impressed any twentieth-century tyrant.”
Author and historian Thomas DiLorenzo has said; “The most absurd claim made in Lincoln’s proclamation is that “Order has been  maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theater of military  conflict.  This was three months after some fifteen thousand U.S. Army soldiers were ordered to leave the Gettysburg  battlefield and march to New York City to put down the New York City Draft riots.
The troops put down the riots by murdering thousands of draft protesters by shooting them down in the streets (See Iver  Bernstein, The New York City Draft Riots).
Lincoln used the proclamation to justify more war taxes and the continuing debasement of the currency.
Lincoln essentially said that God was punishing America with war and the nation should beg God’s mercy and forgiveness with a  national day of thanksgiving.
As Thomas DiLorenzo said; “Lincoln never attempted to explain why God would punish Americans for the sin of slavery while  ignoring the fact that some 95 percent of all the slaves that were brought to the Western Hemisphere were kidnapped and  transported there by the British, Spanish, French, and Dutch.
none of those countries had a war to end slavery. They just ended it. America could have done the same thing.
Some of the current lies about thanksgiving include the myth of how great the Puritans or so called pilgrims were.
Puritans – religious fanatics and nut cases. Strong supporters of slavery, until it became stylish to support abolition.
Cotton Mather was a prominent Puritan minister, author, and leading theologian. Mather wrote a pamphlet for circulation  throughout New England, stating reasons why slaves should be happy as slaves, and why masters are justified in owning slaves.  In 1721 Mather endorsed inoculating blankets with smallpox and distributing them to the sinful poor in Boston. Keep in mind,  the Puritans believed poverty was a punishment for sin. His real motives are debatable, but the practice eventually included  sending the blankets to native American Indians.
As bad as Cotton Mather was, his father, Increase Mather was worse.
The Puritans forced everyone in their colonies to pay taxes to support their church, mandated church attendance on Sunday,  enforced a bazaar dress code, and used public beatings and hangings to keep the non-Puritans in control.
naked Quakers.
Rothbard’s Conceived in Liberty
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5 Responses to Ben Stone the Bad Quaker explains THE TRUTH ABOUT THANKSGIVING – Freedom Feens ad-free radio archive

  1. Halsingen says:

    Regarding Thanksgiving, is it not a general phenomenon in the West?

    When the modern state was born in the French Revolution, the dominant power center, that is the state capital’s history, language and culture became the whole new state’s signature.

    A paralel is perhaps how midsummer is celebrated in all of Northern Europe, with midsummer bonfires.

    Except in one country where the government have decided to jam the traditions of the state capital down all citizens throats, as the “proper” celebrations.

    The ones that IKEA famously jokes about:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWU0CGfj-SU

    The central government have even banned bonfires at that time of the year.

    • Carl Feen says:

      Thanksgiving is celebrated as various harvest festivals world wide, where thanks is given to whatever god(s) the local villagers believe in.

  2. Pingback: It’s Thanksgiving! Time to bash the stinking Puritans. | Bad Quaker Dot Com

  3. Sean DuVally says:

    Best Thanksgiving Day Special EVER. Wasn’t “Alice’s Restaurant” a Thanksgiving Song? Can you say “Naked Quakers” on FCC controled radio?

  4. Ben Stone says:

    Just some insider info here:
    The notes you see above are direct copy/paste from my working notes that I used during the show. The general disjointed structure and half sentences are the typical way I make show notes, both for podcasts and live radio. They aren’t really made to be read, unless I add quotes, but I kind of scan through them as I talk and try to hit the main points in a flow that fits however the conversation is going. Thus you get something like the line that says “naked Quakers”. I know the story well and use it often, so I don’t need more of a reminder.

    Ben

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